Supergirl S3 E5 "Damaged": Discussion and Review

Really enjoyed the episode. Wasn't real impressed with the Maggie/Alex stuff until the very last scene between the two. The sudden loud music was weird....but that is now in Alex's review mirror....can't wait to see who and what is in store for her in the future.

Mostly a good episode.
Edge is developing into a "good" villain - by that I mean he is appropriately evil and schemes well. Lena is developing as a good character too. The story was better than the last few weeks.
Let's move on from all the soap opera stuff - finally.
Seeing what they are doing with Reign is a slow burn. That could be really good.
Overall about a 5/10 for me. Especially since the last two episodes were 2/10 or so.

Wow, 2/10 and 5/10???? still watching???? I have a feeling you are not going to be a happy camper this season.

I for one, am loving it, so far the best season out of the 3. I have decided however not to rate the episodes. I enjoyed or I didn't.....trying to gauge how much I enjoyed or didn't has become silly. Thus far, I've enjoyed every episode and a couple of viewings of each.

I'm always interested to read different opinions on Supergirl and in the attached article the author is not too keen on the darker tone of this Season believing it doesn't fit the show.

5 episodes in and where are people at with the darker tone of the season?.

I have always been one to believe, it was how my mother raised me.....that in order to see the true light within people there has to be darkness. We have to go through bad times in order to truly appreciate the good times. IMO, it would be a boring show, cute....but a boring show if Kara was always like this...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDDmiIMTESA

ALSO, there are several iterations of this character, and right now they are simply pulling from the New 52 period. We are already seeing glimpses of Kara coming back, but we are also seeing glimpses of a strong, independent woman that she is becoming. So, I'm fine with this season, in fact, I'm enjoying it immensely.

I believe this was a very good episode. Clearly, well acted, I am enjoying all the characters. Adrian Pasdar plays a wonderful villain and is a great add to the show. There is a lot of built in tension this season with Sam, Lena, Morgan, and Kara. I think they are delivering the goods and doing a good job at it. Are the writers producing an Emmy Award script? No. But they are delivering a very good one and I must note that this Season’s is far superior to last’s.

I think points, such as James being thanked by Lena is being picky. But note, that he offered Lena the option to call her Jimmy. Remember “only the big guy and his mother “get to call him that!

So questions of strength, and other issues I am not going to address. It was a darn good episode filled with a degree of tension.

Now for Alex and Maggie. There was no real good option to end this, considering Floriana’s wish to move on. So the writers had lemons and they made the best of making lemonade. I still believe it will open greater opportunities to explore the gay community in a positive light.

Again, this was a very good episode, but I don’t like the current poll grading. A very good is better than a “B” and I think “A” should be excellent instead of Amazing. To me Amazingly is the equivalent of a 5.0. Eric, can we come up with a better scoring system? This one deserved better than a B, but I would not term it amazing.

Again, it was on target for a far superior season than last, and one that honors season 1.

Argo

In any kind of action/superhero show, I like some darker tones in with the light. I think that to be able to appreciate any tone in a show, some time has to be shown in the contrasting tone.

I also agree with what Kelly stated, that Supergirl would be boring after awhile. I actually had a conversation not long ago with my sister who started watching SG in the first season but, dropped it. Her biggest complaint was that it was too cheesy, too Pollyanna in its approach. It was also one of the hurdles that I had to overcome to get hooked in Season 1. That's probably why I like "Falling" so much. There's been discussion about other factors that have turned away viewers but, I can't help but believe that the unequal balance in tone hasn't had an effect.

Last note: characterizing women as one-dimensional, flat, cheery personas has long been a problem in the entertainment world, especially in the action/superhero genre, think Lynda Carter's WW and Charlie's Angles. As a result, those characters and shows are not taken seriously. I'm of the opinion that many women want to see other women in these types of roles more like the Gal Gadot WW than the Pollyanna SG (and so do some men). I'm so happy that we have a show for women like SG but, let's let her have some grit along with her optimism.

I was going to say, copyright violation @ Kiwi lol, before I read the description

Any episode that begins with Alex and Supergirl teaming up to take down a villain has started on the right foot and is on the road to being a decent episode . Love the shot of Supergirl through the broken windshield. It really set the tone of the scene.

I thoroughly enjoy Adrian Pasdar in every role that I have seen him in and this one has been no different. As I mentioned on the News page, he does an exceptional job of depicting a, "take no prisoners-win at all costs" personality.

Brierrose, I agree, Edge is no Max. Max had a conscience and felt he was doing the right thing even if his actions weren't always morally or ethically correct. Edge, nah, he seems just to do what he does simply because he wants power and control. We don't have a backstory on him and I, for one, hope that we don't get a sympathetic story that makes us question if underneath it all, he had good intentions. Let's just let the villain be a ruthless, formidable foe for SG.

I also noticed the comment about Sam knowing Lena for awhile. At the time, I thought, whoa, did we know that before or was this brand new information .

I liked Edge's comment to Lena about the cobra and how killing the snake had unintended consequences. It really is a nice reference to how there can't be good without evil. I also loved the Acme Co., cartoon comment of the Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner BEEP, BEEP!

Besides the opening scene, Supergirl saving the plane and Lena was probably my favorite of the episode. I assumed that she would have flown under the plane to keep it up and most likely, in one piece but, staying inside provided some nice shots that showed her strength.

I've liked James thus far in the season much better than previously but, I had to question his waffling between telling Lena that she wasn't her brother and so shouldn't be judged as such to basically insinuating that she was at some fault in the bomb because she used a device her brother made. Nothing like building up a person's self-esteem and shooting the air out within a matter of minutes, lol.

Kelly - I agree with you on the Alex/Maggie scenes. First ones didn't impress me but, the last one was much better.

I wish that they could have separated Alex's story into a different episode or perhaps integrated the break-up better in previous episodes. As it was, such a pivotal piece thrown in with what going on in the Lena, Edge,SG story line made both stories feel rushed. But, I know that's sometimes easier said than done, too.

DagNABit, I'm loving Sam!!! When it starts to Reign, it's gonna POUR!!... my emotions RIGHT outta my heart, all over the floor in a sloppy mess.

Good news....Ruby didn't bug me tonight.

Ditto for me on these two points, evrafter.

Personally I get why Supergirl was having trouble hanging on to both halves of the plane. It wasn’t the weight it was the fact that she couldn’t get a good grip. They showed the metal bending as she tightened her grip, if she had squeezed too hard the part she was holding would have broken off. That scene was one of the best rescues to date, both Melissa and Katie sold the heck out of it.

I think if Lena had been passed out or injured and physically unable to climb up supergirl would have saved both halves. A very supergirl thing to do it is to lift others up by inspiring them. Kara knew Lena was down on herself and in a pit of despair. And then physically she was in a pit made of the plane, supergirl forced Lena to ascend out of the physical pit choosing to live culminating in a leap of faith. Supergirl saved 3 portions in essence; the chemicals, Lena's life and Lena's soul.

Personally I get why Supergirl was having trouble hanging on to both halves of the plane. It wasn’t the weight it was the fact that she couldn’t get a good grip. They showed the metal bending as she tightened her grip, if she had squeezed too hard the part she was holding would have broken off. That scene was one of the best rescues to date, both Melissa and Katie sold the heck out of it.

I think if Lena had been passed out or injured and physically unable to climb up supergirl would have saved both halves. A very supergirl thing to do it is to lift others up by inspiring them. Kara knew Lena was down on herself and in a pit of despair. And then physically she was in a pit made of the plane, supergirl forced Lena to ascend out of the physical pit choosing to live culminating in a leap of faith. Supergirl saved 3 portions in essence; the chemicals, Lena's life and Lena's soul.

Well if you’re going to get all philosophical LOL

So alex and maggie break up this episode?

Also Sam and Kara spending time together? Should be interesting. I want them to develop the friendship a bit more.

Oh hey, Kelly....look. Lena has better hair in this one. Thank, Rao.

Also, Lena sure does know how to handle a gun well. Probably due to some of Katie's previous gun slinger roles lol

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Well Lena was the one who shot John Corbin in the season 2 premier. It was IMO justified he had attacked her and had a gun to Alex’s head when Lena shot him.

From the ew.com spoiler room:

What SuperCorp scoop do you have for Supergirl? — Steve

When Morgan Edge sets his sights on Lena, her friendship with Kara will definitely be tested as her Luthor side starts to come out. “Kara is willing and ready to stand up for her best friend by any means possible,” Melissa Benoist says. “Lena’s maybe [on a] slippery slope onto what you could sadly call her birthright. I don’t know for sure, but it is a fragile balance beam that they’re walking on, these two as friends in the way that Lex and Superman had.”

Interesting. I dont think we'll see Lena crossing the line tonight, but maybe later in the season.

Anyone happen to know how soon after an episode airs that it is available on Amazon?

The CW is not available through my cable provider. I've watched the first four on Amazon but, they had already long since aired when I watched so, I'm not certain on the time frame.

Thanks ahead of time.

It’s avalable the next day on iTunes and the CW app so I would assume it would be the next day on amazon as well.

As to how late in the day I think the CW app happens pretty early (I’ve watched missed episodes in the middle of he night and I’m on Pacific time) but I tunes could be into the morning of the next day. Not sure where amazon falls.

Anyone happen to know how soon after an episode airs that it is available on Amazon?

I am eastern standard time and I receive an email at 3am stating the episode is available on Amazon.

I am bummed tonight as storms passed through central Ohio Sunday night leaving us powerless. I rented a motel room for myself and my 86 year old Mom so she would be warm. The motel channel selection doesn't include CW! I may turn into a worldkiller before 3am!

Ho ho ho.... PLOT twist there at the end. Woop woop!

Good episode.

DagNABit, I'm loving Sam!!! When it starts to Reign, it's gonna POUR!!... my emotions RIGHT outta my heart, all over the floor in a sloppy mess.

Good news....Ruby didn't bug me tonight.

The Alex and Maggie side story just felt out of sorts.

Anyone wanna start guessing what it was Kevin Smith sent Chris of Melissa that they watched and rewatched? My guess was her facial reaction when Lena was drunk and interrupted Kara. She just did a twitch of her nose and eyes, and slight movement of her head. Made ME rewind, anyways. lol

My second guess was her awesome glare through the windshield. lol But... Still think it was her reaction to Lena

Me too, I think Reign will be the first villain that will tear my heart in two because of what happens to her, not what she does.

http://au.ign.com/articles/2017/11/07/supergirl-damage-review

Pretty much what I think.

Still, even the worst of this season is a whole magnitude beyond last season in quality, so the streak is still good.

I'd like to differ with the review in that I think breaking up Sanvers was a good and timely idea. Whereas the reviewer believed Sanvers added to the show, I thought it detracted on the long run

In terms of the series this is actually a great episode. The friendship between Kara and Reign feels like watching Obiwan and Anakin, which is awesome.

So, apparently, Kara is so happy with her sister that she wants everyone to have a sister.

That is what I got from the episode.

Also: I really like Sam. I think I will miss Odette when she leaves. And, I do like Edge. He seems actually challenging.

The show has succeeded in building up a villain that you grow to care for I guess.

This was a very good episode for me, not as great as the first four but by no means bad in anyway. The best explanation I can come up with is it didn’t make me think as much.

For many fans it will only be known as episode where Alex and Maggie break up. I don’t envy the position the producers and writers were placed in by the necessity of writing Maggie out. I can honestly say I could’ve come up with a better way to do it. I hear some fans saying not enough time was spent on the story, they would have liked to hear some of the conversations that must have taken place after Alex crawled into bed in S3E4. I also understand the fans who think too much time was spent on a relationship we all knew was ending. I appreciate that neither was framed as wrong for wanting what they wanted. I also like that Maggie isn’t leaving town because of the breakup. I read one FB comment that they shouldn’t have had sex one last time, to that I say that breakup sex absolutely happens. IMO the hardest breakups are the ones where the reason is a fundamental incompatibility not lack of love or somebody doing something wrong. Now on to the rest of the episode.

I think we can stop comparing Morgan Edge to Maxwell Lord. No way would Max have intentionally harmed anyone let alone children to create bad press for his rival. Max wasn’t above using the earthquake in “human for a day” to throw some bad press Supergirl’s way but he had his limits. Morgan Edge is just plain evil and he made it clear he’s not scared of Supergirl. I’m not sure how he’s going to be foiled but I can say it’s going to be brains not brawn that accomplish it. I just hope Lena doesn’t have to lose a piece of her soul to do it.

Personally I get why Supergirl was having trouble hanging on to both halves of the plane. It wasn’t the weight it was the fact that she couldn’t get a good grip. They showed the metal bending as she tightened her grip, if she had squeezed too hard the part she was holding would have broken off. That scene was one of the best rescues to date, both Melissa and Katie sold the heck out of it.

So Lena and Sam know each other from before I defiantly need to hear more about that. Does Lena know who Ruby’s father is? Sam has some illegal hacker skills, will Reign be a challenge to Kara in brains as well as brawn, I hope so.

Shout out to the writers for not totally forgetting that Winn also worked on the lead bomb. Winn talked about how he and Lena went over the calculations. Jeremey showed that Winn was horrified that the calculations were incorrect and it was more possible that he thought that he too was responsible for harming kids. I would have liked a Winn and Lena scene about that but I realize that would have been hard to fit in.