Melissa’s response to recent events - Warning this thread contains political subject matter

Oh, I already wrote and posted that story. And no, there are no Irish stereotypes in it. ( I try quite hard to avoid any type of stereotyping in my stories.) No, noobdy says anything like "Begorrah!" In fact, Allie Sherlock speaks the same sort of homogenized "Gen Z English" as English-speaking teens anywhere in the world today. When Allie says "Bye, guys!" at the end of her videos, she sounds like a California "Valley Girl".

From my original posting of the story:

Here's a link to my new Supergirl fan fiction story on my Facebook page, "The Crew Dragon Rescue Mission". Yes, it's based on the recent Crew Dragon landing in the Gulf of Mexico. But I changed the location to Ireland, and got the real-life musician Allie Sherlock involved in the story, too.
I hope you like it!

https://www.facebook.com/stewart.tick/posts/2113439132120775

Stewart, inspiration comes from all kinds of sources, viruses and plagues included. There are plenty out their, just look at season 3's 'Of Two Minds' for example. Admittedly timing might be a problem, instead of completely dismissing the idea, maybe file it until we are all hopefully out of the woods.

I see you are considering sending Kara over here to Ireland. I'll love to see that. In Season 5's 'Blurred Lines' Lena make a reference to Dublin after Kara buys her lunch, unfortunately we don't get to see it. If you do send Kara over here, please do me a favor: no stereotypes like leprechauns and we actually do not say things like "Begorrah" or "Top o'dee mornin tee ya".

I'm going to start on my next Supergirl story this week. And I was toying with these sorts of ideas about a new virus in National City, but it seems like that's hitting too close to home now. I was also thinking about something dealing with street demonstrations in the City, but I'd say that's become too politicized for me to touch at this point. I think I'll go back to my "travelogue" type of stories, and send Kara to Ireland this time (probably for a space rescue mission). Of course, I want to get Kara's musical talents in the mix, too. I'm planning to have her meet up with Allie Sherlock and join her onstage in Dublin with her guitar (as Kara Danvers, of course).
How does that sound?

I understand why some would run far, far away from a thread of this nature. I am proud of Melissa for taking a stand, and though I cannot say that I run as liberal as she does on many issues, it is her right to speak her mind and use the platforms she has to put forth the ideas and thoughts that she has. I know that she probably went through many nights of anxiety making the decision to do the Bass IG interview. I suffer from anxiety and it is truly a heartstopping mental challenge, she did a great job with the interview. I'm glad it was posted here because I missed some of the end because the interview froze on me. I am a proud SJW, and I proudly voted for Biden/Harris....I however have many family members, most in fact that do not hold to the same political ideology that I do. So I understand how some run from any and all political discussions.

I am at the moment, having to deal with family issues because of the political climate. An act of just sending a song to my niece sent her into a fury and let me know that my act of "reaching the across the aisle" was not welcome. That actually wasn't what I was doing, it had nothing political behind the song, simply a song that came up on my podcast while I was thinking of how unhappy I knew my family was on Saturday and how I wished we could all celebrate together but I knew that would not happen. So I sent a song that symbolized my love for them, and the fact that screw politics I loved them. But, in today's political climate, it was not taken that way. My heart breaks for my family my heart breaks for my country....though you could say, my "man/woman" won......I don't feel much like a winner right now. I have argued quite a bit over the past few years here and other places standing as a proud SJW feminist woman. I am still all of that......but with a broken heart. I'm tired of fighting, I'm tired of debating who is right and who is wrong. I'm tired of conspiracy theories, lies and media being what people follow rather than their hearts and doing what they know is right, and BTW I have to put myself in that category as well. America is broken and I'm tired of the blame game. I truly believe our country has been wounded beyond recognition, but I also believe that EVERYTHING is now out on the table.....all the dirty laundry. So what do we do now?

My hope is that this show, and others will be the light to show us what is truly important and its not a political ideology, it is integrity, honesty, thoughtfulness, kindness and empathy. I have to be very honest, I do not see that in the near future, or even in the next 4 years....I'm not sure that I will see that country again in my lifetime. So though people would say...."well, I hope your happy......you won." None of this is about winning, it is about being better people. I can only strive to do that in my own life, so today.....no arguing over political ideology, no carrying my SJW banner, just me hoping for a better tomorrow. I will spend the rest of my days hoping for that, and living my life in a way that I am a light for those things, not a bell ringer for the politician I agree with.

Sincerely,
A human being, no label, just me.

Well @RobertAnthony at least you didn’t say shut up and entertain so credit to you for that. I disagree with what you said. I generally have a non engagement policy with folks such as yourself, once someone believes in conspiracy theories it’s no use, but you insulted my home state and I’m feeling salty tonight.

1) California is not a “ tyrannical totalitarian run state”, I should know because I live there and you don’t. What makes you say that, is it because our Governor listens to scientists that he celebrates good news but doesn’t downplay bad news that he’s not afraid to tell Disney that no it’s not safe to open a huge theme park during a pandemic that he doesn’t pretend coronavirus is going to magically go away. Is Governor Newsom perfect of course not nobody is but he will admit when he is wrong and do his best to correct the mistake. I’ve never once doubted that he is an empathetic person who has and will continue to put the good of the state first. My particular part of the state The Bay Area is doing well right now the curve is staying flat as we very cautiously and slowly loosen some restrictions. We’ve worked together for the common good and the majority of us believe in listening to scientists. We’re also not afraid to put restrictions back on if necessary. California has developed a transparent tier system if a country slips for a week it moves to a more restrictive tier and it takes two consecutive weeks with numbers in a less restrictive tier for a country to move down. California is the largest and most populous state in the US if it were a country it would be the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world. California contributes more money to the Federal government than any other state and gets back much less than we pay in. Please kindly refrain from insulting my home state, I don’t insult yours.

2) I’ve been to several BLM marches and I’m pretty sure you don’t understand what the movement is about. It’s not saying Black Lives Matter more than others but that Black lives are in danger in circumstances where other lives aren’t. As a white woman during the few encounters I’ve had with the police not for a second did I think my life was in danger, unfortunately that’s not true for Black people. My parents never had to teach me how to make others not be afraid of me just because of how I look. As a girl my parents did have to teach me how to deal with among several things catcalling and how to say no to a man in a way that still insured my safety. BLM is a civil rights movement and history shows that rights are not won simply by asking those in power nicely. If simply asking for rights worked we wouldn’t have needed to fight the British in the American Revolution. If simply asking for nicely for equality worked women wouldn’t have had to go on hunger strikes to get the right to vote. If simply asking nicely for equality worked Black people wouldn’t have had to fight for the right to vote.

3) Antifa is in my opinion a convenient boogeyman for the justification of racist ideas and policies.

@superbll thanks for the encouragement but I’ve been around long enough to know that in the real world truth and justice don’t always win out in the end.

Quoting Brierrose: "While I don’t believe celebrities political views are more important than the views of us regular people they have the same rights to express their opinions as everyone else."

And...people like myself have the right to offer a rebuttal, especially to the likes of "Representative" Bass...who was honored byby a member of Communist Party USA last August. It's not to my shock she represents a tyrannical totalitarian run state like California which is falling apart at the seems. She may deny being a socialist or even communist, but everytime some globalist operative like Bass opens her mouth, she's lying.

And do not even get me started on the corporate elite media who's silence or writing favorably of the likes of Antifa and Black Lives (LIES) Matter has led to all the violence in this country and could lead to an all out second Civil War.

My state CT has a similar congress creature...Rosa DeLauro a woman who has "represented" an area including the leftist enclave of New Haven for a long time...too long if you ask me.

Quoting Brierrose: "While I don’t believe celebrities political views are more important than the views of us regular people they have the same rights to express their opinions as everyone else."

This is so true and thanks for stating it, though it should be obvious to everyone. It is disturbing that many people seem to believe that the only people deserving of freedom of speech are those who they agree with, and also that celebrities forfeit that right just because they are celebrities. This is nonsense, and you are correct in saying that people who say such things have no factual counter argument. Plus they are emboldened by the anonymity of the internet.

Hang in there, Brierrose. This too shall pass. Truth and justice always win out in the end.

WARNING this post is extremely political. Since it’s an interview that Melissa did I believe it has a place in the forum.

I debated for over a week weather to post this and what’s happened in the past two days has made my decision. Over the past couple of days I’ve felt anxious and scared. I’ve never struggled with anxiety before even over the past seven months of this pandemic but the past two days have done me in. Some of the issues discussed in the interview are the ones feeding my anxiety. I feel the need to reach out to my fellow humans in any and all forms.

Melissa interviewed Representative Karen Bass through IG on October 16th. They start by taking about the violence against women act, which was allowed to expire, and move on to have an informed and intelligence talk on other issues.



Not unexpectedly Melissa received some nasty negative comments for this IG live interview. While I don’t believe celebrities political views are more important than the views of us regular people they have the same rights to express their opinions as everyone else. I disagree with those who told her to shut up and entertain. To me if you can’t come up with something better than shut up and entertain it means you can't present a factual and well thought out counter argument.

I'm going to start on my next Supergirl story this week. And I was toying with these sorts of ideas about a new virus in National City, but it seems like that's hitting too close to home now. I was also thinking about something dealing with street demonstrations in the City, but I'd say that's become too politicized for me to touch at this point. I think I'll go back to my "travelogue" type of stories, and send Kara to Ireland this time (probably for a space rescue mission). Of course, I want to get Kara's musical talents in the mix, too. I'm planning to have her meet up with Allie Sherlock and join her onstage in Dublin with her guitar (as Kara Danvers, of course).
How does that sound?

Sounds entertaining, Stewart! I'll be watching for it.

"Stewart, do I sense a new fan story brewing?"

Well, Superbill...

I'm going to start on my next Supergirl story this week. And I was toying with these sorts of ideas about a new virus in National City, but it seems like that's hitting too close to home now. I was also thinking about something dealing with street demonstrations in the City, but I'd say that's become too politicized for me to touch at this point. I think I'll go back to my "travelogue" type of stories, and send Kara to Ireland this time (probably for a space rescue mission). Of course, I want to get Kara's musical talents in the mix, too. I'm planning to have her meet up with Allie Sherlock and join her onstage in Dublin with her guitar (as Kara Danvers, of course).
How does that sound?

Interesting CatPat posted picture in the Coronavirus Q&A Forum that could suggest exactly what I was referring to:

Supergirl with Mask

There are other Arrowverse posters too:

Arrowverse with Masks

Stewart Tick -

Eire El - "Or what if Kara was still impervious but asymptomatic. We saw in 'Childish Things' and 'Bunker Hill' that she can be affected by unusual particles in concentrated doses."

Yes, but if Kara is not really in much serious danger herself, there isn't much dramatic tension. After all, she's the protagonist. That was one of the criticisms that people were making about my early attempts at writing Supergirl fan fiction. Since then, I've been careful not to allow Kara to seem too invulnerable or "overpowered". Actually, I deliberately lowered her power and vulnerability levels to something closer to the Golden Age Superman. (Otherwise, it's hard for human villains to pose much of a real threat to her.)

Anyway, for this story - maybe Lex Luthor (or another major high-tech villain) gets an early look at the new virus, and identifies segments of Kryptonian DNA sequences in it. But Kara doesn't know that, and just figures it's a typical Earth virus, and that it won't affect her. When the villains use it against her, she is clearly taken by surprise. Then it's up to the Supergirl Team - with Kara at the helm - to figure out how to defeat this new threat (both to her and to the human population), and possibly how to turn it against the villains. As Shakespeare put it, "hoist with his own petard" - always an excellent dramatic device!

...“Qui tacet consentire videtur”, meaning your silence is your consent...I spoke to my Representatives at the State and Federal level about school's opening. They had not heard from any other teachers, that made me angry and I put it out there......they are hearing from us now, and we saw changes being made... we live in a time where “Qui tacet consentire videtur” cannot be allowed to exist. This is such a time.

How can a non teacher non parent best support teachers and schools right now,

It will be interesting to see how "Supergirl" takes on today's news events. It's kind of funny actually, if you look back over the last few seasons......"Supergirl" has already taken on the events of today.

I’m not sure the most recent current events would be a good fit for the show. A story line with a disease related pandemic where main character would be impervious to the disease IMO isn’t a good fit. Addressing systemic racism I don’t think is a great fit either, while it could be done it wouldn’t be a Kara focused storyline. What could possibly fit is now that the DEO appears to be going away and Kara and Alex etc. are actually full on vigilantes there could be a story there. Alex has in the past violently questioned people, maybe the sisters disagree on where the lines are now that they’re the ones drawing them. That could lead to some meaty sister scenes.

I wasn't thinking about them doing anything from today's headlines.
1. Season 2 talked about a disease infecting other aliens.
2. Season 2 talked about immigration.
3. Season 4 talked about racism and disenfrachising a group of people.
4. Season 5, IMO iud not really have a clear pathway to where ot wanted to go. But did speak on transgender issues.
5. I think Season 6 needs to go the way of Season 3. Choose a STRONG VILLAIN, like Reign and look back to some villains from Season 1 such as Reactron for a few episodes, not just one....and really get back to the comics in a way that Season 3 first half did.

"Or what if Kara was still impervious but asymptomatic. We saw in 'Childish Things' and 'Bunker Hill' that she can be affected by unusual particles in concentrated doses."

Yes, but if Kara is not really in much serious danger herself, there isn't much dramatic tension. After all, she's the protagonist. That was one of the criticisms that people were making about my early attempts at writing Supergirl fan fiction. Since then, I've been careful not to allow Kara to seem too invulnerable or "overpowered". Actually, I deliberately lowered her power and vulnerability levels to something closer to the Golden Age Superman. (Otherwise, it's hard for human villains to pose much of a real threat to her.)

Anyway, for this story - maybe Lex Luthor (or another major high-tech villain) gets an early look at the new virus, and identifies segments of Kryptonian DNA sequences in it. But Kara doesn't know that, and just figures it's a typical Earth virus, and that it won't affect her. When the villains use it against her, she is clearly taken by surprise. Then it's up to the Supergirl Team - with Kara at the helm - to figure out how to defeat this new threat (both to her and to the human population), and possibly how to turn it against the villains. As Shakespeare put it, "hoist with his own petard" - always an excellent dramatic device!

"It is always a pleasure to communicate with the members of this website, please stay safe."

Same to you!

Probably not - but what if the lead character is in fact susceptible to the disease (but assumes at first that she isn't)? What if the Earth virus came in contact with a kryptonite meteorite, and picked up some Kryptonian DNA (or RNA), which it incorporated into its own genome?
Hmmm... now *that* might be an intriguing story line!

Or what if Kara was still impervious but asymptomatic. We saw in 'Childish Things' and 'Bunker Hill' that she can be affected by unusual particles in concentrated doses.

1. 'Childish Things' she had to clear her throat for a while after inhaling Toyman's gas
   
2. 'Bunker Hill' she was temporarily stunned by Manchester Black's Moondust
   

What if Kara has to realise the need to wear a mask when rescuing people, especially if the reason she realises this need is due to the after effect on a previous rescue. This would not contradict her opinion on mask wearing in 'The Darkest Place'.

It is a tricky direction for writers to go and they would have to be very sensitive in their writing. On the one hand it may help to educate those that still don't seem to understand how serious the current pandemic situation is. On the other hand if mishandled it could upset people who are directly affected.

It is always a pleasure to communicate with the members of this website, please stay safe.

I think Melissa and many others, myself included, are realizing that we fell under the latin phrase “Qui tacet consentire videtur”, meaning your silence is your consent. I think we are just finding our voice. Sometimes that "voice" in its infancy is very loud. I see it becoming more specific, strong, and much more organized in its delivery.

Regarding “Qui tacet consentire videtur,” recently, the MeToo movement emphasized the importance of positive consent. We are all familiar with "no means no," obviously. But we are made to understand that consent is not given unless you hear a "Yes."

Silence is just that. Silence. Anyone's interpretation of that silence is not the problem of the silent person.

A bit of wisdom attributed to President Lincoln: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

. "A story line with a disease related pandemic where main character would be impervious to the disease IMO isn’t a good fit"

Probably not - but what if the lead character is in fact susceptible to the disease (but assumes at first that she isn't)? What if the Earth virus came in contact with a kryptonite meteorite, and picked up some Kryptonian DNA (or RNA), which it incorporated into its own genome?
Hmmm... now *that* might be an intriguing story line!

Stewart, do I sense a new fan story brewing?

. "A story line with a disease related pandemic where main character would be impervious to the disease IMO isn’t a good fit"

Probably not - but what if the lead character is in fact susceptible to the disease (but assumes at first that she isn't)? What if the Earth virus came in contact with a kryptonite meteorite, and picked up some Kryptonian DNA (or RNA), which it incorporated into its own genome?
Hmmm... now *that* might be an intriguing story line!

...“Qui tacet consentire videtur”, meaning your silence is your consent...I spoke to my Representatives at the State and Federal level about school's opening. They had not heard from any other teachers, that made me angry and I put it out there......they are hearing from us now, and we saw changes being made... we live in a time where “Qui tacet consentire videtur” cannot be allowed to exist. This is such a time.

How can a non teacher non parent best support teachers and schools right now,

It will be interesting to see how "Supergirl" takes on today's news events. It's kind of funny actually, if you look back over the last few seasons......"Supergirl" has already taken on the events of today.

I’m not sure the most recent current events would be a good fit for the show. A story line with a disease related pandemic where main character would be impervious to the disease IMO isn’t a good fit. Addressing systemic racism I don’t think is a great fit either, while it could be done it wouldn’t be a Kara focused storyline. What could possibly fit is now that the DEO appears to be going away and Kara and Alex etc. are actually full on vigilantes there could be a story there. Alex has in the past violently questioned people, maybe the sisters disagree on where the lines are now that they’re the ones drawing them. That could lead to some meaty sister scenes.

Kelly, excellent point and it might be too soon for any pandemic related stories, as that would both hit to close to home and be understandably very upsetting for a lot of people currently suffering through the real one.

I hope all the fans and admin on this site are keeping well and staying safe.

It will be interesting to see how "Supergirl" takes on today's news events. It's kind of funny actually, if you look back over the last few seasons......"Supergirl" has already taken on the events of today.

I think Melissa and many others, myself included, are realizing that we fell under the latin phrase “Qui tacet consentire videtur”, meaning your silence is your consent. I think we are just finding our voice. Sometimes that "voice" in its infancy is very loud. I see it becoming more specific, strong, and much more organized in its delivery.

Some will agree, some will disagree....that is the beauty of this "Republic".

I don't hold Melissa's voice up above anyone else's, but her platform certainly is one that can deliver a strong message. We ALL should speak to our representatives more often. I found this out the hard way. I spoke to my Representatives at the State and Federal level about school's opening. They had not heard from any other teachers, that made me angry and I put it out there......they are hearing from us now, and we saw changes being made... we live in a time where “Qui tacet consentire videtur” cannot be allowed to exist. This is such a time.

This will be my last response on this particular subject. It will be interesting to see how "Supergirl" takes on today's news events. It's kind of funny actually, if you look back over the last few seasons......"Supergirl" has already taken on the events of today.

I would hate to lose Kiwi too and suspect he’s taking a break rather than quitting, I really hope that’s the case. Many long time contributors myself included have taken breaks then come back.

I agree that what Melissa says on her social media shouldn’t be given any more weight because of who she is. I still believe what she says is a valid forum topic for this site. I will pledge to keep my thoughts on any social issue stuff she posts confined to this thread.