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No Haters please. This is not about anyone one relationship. IT is about all of them.

Can we please have more superhero action and less soap opera drama?
My two cents - too much focus this season on the relationships. If necessary to complete Kara as a character, write a relationship for her and keep the others in the background. Part of the struggle for a hero like Batman is he knows he can never have a normal relationship and most times he is alone in his struggles. If this were "Lois and Clark" - the relationship would be okay I guess because that was the focus of the show. Perry White's wife was (almost)never seen. Jimmy Olsen only had a relationship if it advanced the story/action of the episode when he/they got in trouble. Lois was in and out of relationships that made Clark jealous. Currently in Supergiirl seemingly everyone is in a relationship and it is taking away from the main character and what she can do. If that is what the producers wish to do, then change the name to "Relationships in the DEO" and phase out Kara. I watch the show to see super-heroics not soap opera drama. Hank and Megan/Alex and Maggie are extraneous to Kara's development as a hero. If you are watching The Flash, Joe and his current interest so far have only been there to advance the story of Barry's heroism and leadership. They do not get whole segments of the show because Barry is the focus. Barry and Iris work because he is the hero. In Arrow, Mr. Terrific and Paul advanced the tension and sacrifice/costs of living the life of a hero - and it was well told. Felicity and her cop boyfriend advanced the Prometheus story. The Diggle and his wife story lines also help drive the story while being in the background of the show. All parts there were well written and purposeful but not dominating the show. I have yet to see a Supergirl episode this season that measures up to last year's pilot episode or Red Tornado episode or black mercy episode. This season has been somewhat disappointing when compared to last season. Get the focus back on Kara becoming a hero and defeating the villiains. Leave the soap opera stuff for General Hospital.
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I can agree with some of this. They did a stunningly beautiful job with Alex's process of self-realization, and until the last couple of weeks the Martian storyline has been partially back-burnered. But supposedly a big part of the emphasis this season was going to be on Kara's personal and professional (reporter, not superhero) growth, but that's turned out to be more of her and Mon-El having a sixth-grade "he pulls your hair because he likes you" relationship amidst a sea of Sanvers, J'onn and M'Gann, and Guardian stories. I'd like to see them bring the emphasis back to Kara.

Oh, and vegan ice cream isn't love, it's Stockholm syndrome :) .
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All comic books, and apparently movies and television shows based on them, eventually devolve into soap operas with people throwing cars and flying.

In the comics, it's quickly established they aren't going to kill off the main characters as long as the book keeps selling (and even if you do, they return from "death" 99 + percent of the time when they reboot the series or when another book wants to use the characters).

That means the only real tension you can develop is either putting the secondary characters in danger or injecting angst and emotional turmoil into the hero's life.

Over and over again.

In the movies they don't have much time to delve into a lot of interpersonal relationships, but they do it anyway, often to the detriment of the plot. The cast and crew still want to be taken "seriously", so action is sacrificed to, thankfully usually brief, examinations of "why am I trying to be a hero?" and "how does this effect the worldc and the people closest to me?".

In television it's simple: special effects shots and choreographed fight scenes are expensive and hard to set up. Television writers from other genres have lots more experience in writing interpersonal scenes than making super strength and flying battles look realistic.

So we get failed romances, contrived emotional conflicts and rotating subplots.
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I think there is a strong need for both...the base of this show can't just be action, it would have no heart at that point. The cornerstone of this show is not action it is the Danvers' sister relationship, and with one being a DEO agent, and the other being Supergirl....OF COURSE there is going to be action. What I think many are seeing is that that relationship has changed from season 1. I for one welcome the change, I don't thank any relationship stays the same, we are not able to spend as much time with family once we reach certain chapters in our lives, but when those times come that we are able to spend time with them they are that much sweeter. I think that is what has happened in season 2.

I think the Maggie/Alex relationship was beautifully done, and as much as it was tough to watch, we saw in this last episode what can sometimes happen within family relationships as well as friendships when one has a new love, and the other doesn't. It was very real feeling for me. Thrown into the middle of all of that was the great conflict going on at the DEO. Action and Relationships once again together.

In the episode "Changes" to me probably the best written episode of either season, you once again have great character, relationship moments, in the midst of a very real threat.

As far as the Mon-El/Kara relationship, we have seen it grow RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ACTION....in 3 episodes.

So, to get to the point....you can have both, you need both, and so far, with a few miss directions, we have that...

In my opinion, to call what they have done this season "soap opera" is kind of disrespectful to those out there that have watched this show, and have seen their own lives in many of these characters, have seen their own journeys in many of these characters, and have found comfort and strength in watching these characters go through the journey of building relationships.
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I am not so much worried about the relationship part of the show as I am the politics part of the show. The politics of the shows telling half the country's don't watch me because we hate your politics
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