Who thinks that Mon-El and Kara have a chance of getting back together after what was released about the "heart wrenching" finale?

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Well, if the rumors that are flying around twitter are correct........ no "ship" is left sailing this season....lol

I saw posts that there ARE rumors, but I haven't seen the actual rumors. And I kinda don't want to. I'd prefer not to have the plot spoiled. Especially with 9 episodes left.

That being said, I am 100% okay if all existing ships are history after this season. I said it before, I feel like Kara and Mon-El getting back together would be a backpedal, after Kara's growth, this season. And I'm sure there are respectful Supercorp shippers, but Good Lord, the ones who make noise online seem genuinely hateful people.

And then there are the still VERY faithful Sanvers shippers, saying they wont watch the show until they "Bring Maggie Back", failing to acknowledge that it was Floriana's choice to leave.

I know that Supercorp, Karamel, and Sanvers all have respectful shippers, and completely disrespectful jerks as shippers. We just don't normally hear from the former, and I'm sick of hearing from the latter.

I don't know where I was in the past decade or so when "shipping" went from "wouldn't be cool if" to "f**k this show if my ship isn't canon, doesn't stay canon, and isn't endgame, and anyone else who thinks otherwise is garbage".

I personally believe that if someone only watches a show for a "ship", and refuses to watch because it's not, or is no longer, canon, then good riddance. You were never truly a fan of that show.

Do I "ship"? Sure. I ship relationships that I know will never happen. I acknowledge that, I bear no hatred to anyone who disagrees, or to the writers for not putting together the characters I like.

Sorry for the rant. I made the mistake of reading comments on Supergirl's official posts on their social media accounts, and the rude, hateful folk just got me worked up.

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The posts on Twitter that I find the saddest are those that tweet that this or that relationship validates them, or makes them whole, or makes them feel like they are valid in some way. That to me is extremely sad commentary because that is putting all that you are into a fictional world and all of those things need to come from within, not from a fictional TV show. The numbers of these tweets are growing, and unfortunately, some of the actors involved in these ships are perpetuating that feeling IMO. When you as the actor "likes" or even says "thank you" or comments to these types of posts you are helping to perpetuate, IMO, a very, very harmful way of thinking to these people. IMO, the actors involved in some of these toxic fandoms have helped continue the vitriol because through their tweets, or likes and even some of the cons they are choosing to go to are perpetuating those feelings. I think it is sad and pretty damn scary.

And let me clear, I am not talking about the wonderful stories of people coming out because they felt inspired by Alex's story.....those are fantastic stories and should high fived for sure....but they should also begin to seek out people in their own lives to help support them in these times, not actors on a fictional show.

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And the worst is those who think their shipping amounts to fighting for a social cause.

By obsessing over people on TV, ranting about, saying so and so is endgame etc, you are not fighting for LGBT rights. You are not fighting for feminism. You are not fighting for anything other than a fanfic.

Being a shipper doesn't make you a champion of social justice. And opposing your ship doesn't make others a bigot.

Go march. Go vote. Go do something real if you actually care about the cause. Having twitter handles like "Supergirl is Supergay" while tweeting about SuperCorp 24/4 and hurling insults every time a male character is paired with Kara does not advance anything.

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I don't mind Mon-el sticking around, I really like Chris in the role, however I'm not real keen on them rekindling their relationship....unless it is much better written than last season, I hope they stay just friends.

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I think that, after the progress Kara has made (finally), it would feel like a huge step backwards for her character to fall back into this relationship, when over half the season has been about getting over Mon-El.

Respectfully disagree. The progress Kara has made figuring out who she is and who she wants to be won't be negated if the catalyst for that introspection, the loss of the life she thought she was going to have, becomes possible again. Personally I think the season will end with Mon-El and Imra breaking up but Kara and Mon-El not getting back together but the possibility left open for next season. If nothing else it's believable that the network will want to stretch out the will they or won't they get back together.

I just don't think Kara/Supergirl should NEED to be in a relationship. And if she is in one, it shouldn't be so crucial to who she is as a person.

I agree with this

Losing people is hard, and I get that. But Kara's recovery period after losing him at the end of season 2 seemed INCREDIBLY disproportional to how long they were together. She seemed to completely lose herself for 7 months, after losing what was pretty much a 2-3 month relationship. And that really bothered me. But she's finally made progress, and I don't want to see all of that be for nothing.

It's not just Mon-El Kara was grieving she was close to having everything she ever wanted, then by her own hand she had to sacrifice that. How many of us have had points in our lives where by forces in and out of our control something changes and all our plans for the future are no longer possible. There's a grieving process for the life we thought we were going to have that we have to go through before we can pick up the pieces and live in our new normal. IMO Kara having a second chance at the life she thought she was going to have doesn't negate the process or the progress. Plus Kara and Mon-El are both not the same people they were at the end of last season, their relationship wouldn't be the same either.

An IRL example is the couple who unsuccessfully tries to have a child then conceives right after they adopt. They may have spent years trying then after grieving not having a biological child open their hearts to adoption. unexpectedly having the biological child they had given up on ever having doesn't negate the progress they went through or make them love either child differently.

Having her and Mon-El together season 5?...that would seem MUCH more legit. Give the relationship angle a break....loooonnnggg break.

I'd be down for this. I could see both of them not wanting to jump right back into a relationship after everything they've been through. Let Kara take a page out of Eliza's book and say they need to get to know each other again. I would also like to see Mon-El taking time to process the end of his relationship with Imra and the ending of the life he thought he was going to have.

Hope, Help and Compassion for all

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RIP Karamel 2017-2018 (post this episode)

I vote for no more dating with anyone in the future.

Let's examine what the romance kerfuffle has done

- Karamel fans are now angry. They got hyped up from last season, then thrice denied. First split, Mon-El leaves, returns but married, teased about reconciliation, reconciliation denied

- I don't even know how SuperCorp came to be, but they're angry too and have been angry from the start. They get angry every time Mon-El appears no matter what he does, or even if Karamel is dead, and now they probably get angry at James too.

- Both camps are angry with the show and angry with each-other, and apparently 90% of the visible fandom is from either ship, resulting the social media relating to the show a war zone utterly hazardous to anyone who doesn't ship.

- Future pairings will only generate new ships and new counter-ships, and old ones don't die. Those guys will be angry with each other, with KM and SC still going at it, and probably angry at the future ships too.

- Marc Guggenheim gleefully laughs at the Arrow method being so successfully repeated

I don't think both fandoms are anywhere near 90% of the fans of the show.....I think they are simply LOUDER than 90% of the fans of the show.

I think what we are now seeing is the writers and showrunners drawing a line in the sand. You are either a fan of Supergirl as a whole, or you are fan of 1 actor and or ship. So take your choice or move on. IMO, I'm all for that.....draw that line and see who crosses and who doesn't.

The problem with Arrow is, they fell to the ships.....they caved. Hopefully Supergirl does not.

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- I don't even know how SuperCorp came to be, but they're angry too and have been angry from the start. They get angry every time Mon-El appears no matter what he does, or even if Karamel is dead, and now they probably get angry at James too.

- Both camps are angry with the show and angry with each-other, and apparently 90% of the visible fandom is from either ship, resulting the social media relating to the show a war zone utterly hazardous to anyone who doesn't ship.

I joke not when I say, this is the ONLY site I can go to now for REAL Supergirl talk. Twitter is a HOT mess due to overzealous parts of Karamel and Supercorp shippers. And then there's the peeps who got offended at the beginning of the season, who vowed not to watch ever again but follow the conversations just to shoot them down.

So...YAY us for keepin it real here

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"And then there's the peeps who got offended at the beginning of the season"

By what?

By what? By WHAT?? Fedguy, are you extra tired right now? Lol Maggie leaving the show, that's what. *waits for Fedguy to pause, slap his forehead, and say "Ooohhhh yyyeeaaahhh, ddduuuhhh* lol

Gonna be honest. I was happy for it. Much like the Mon-El relationship, it was one of those relationships that seeped into every aspect of the show. I have absolutely nothing against LGBT relationships, but I was never a fan of Maggie as a character. As a character, she seemed very selfish.

Alex confronted her once, about Maggie calling her out for liking her, getting her to come out, then rejecting her. When trying to convince Alex to come out, she lied about how well her own family took her coming out.

She gets upset at Alex, for getting upset when Kara is missing in "Supergirl Lives". She says "you get one chance". Really not how a relationship should work.

Maggie gets upset because Alex wants to celebrate Valentines Day. WTF.

She draws the line of "I don't want kids", and that's the end of it.

And then the big thing that ALL of the Sanvers folk seem to ignore, Floriana CHOSE to leave the show. That's the big thing that annoys me about all of the "bring Maggie back" posts on social media.

Maggie was a great way to open a new doorway for new and more personal stories with Alex. But that relationship was never as perfect as people like to make it seem. Alex gave way more of herself, from what I can see, than Maggie did.

And then, side note, I don't exactly like how Alex completely lost herself in that relationship, to the detriment of other parts of her life. I'm referring to how she (and everyone else) were so involved in their own stuff that NOBODY realized Kara was missing in "The Darkest Place". Or how she bailed pretty easily on Kara's Earth Birthday in "The Martian Chronicles".

Again, these are just opinion. I will never spew hateful rhetoric towards others who supported the relationship. And if I'm being fair, I have just as many critiques in my back pocket about the Mon-El relationship, which is what the title of this thread is about.

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Somehow the topic I brought up about Kara and Brainiac 5 being the closest thing to an 'endgame' made its way to twitter (someone shared a link to this forum topic).

The twitter user, in a thread, goes through Kara and Brainy's history together in case some of you are interested. I'm not a big comic book reader so all of this information was new to me. They've also compiled what looks like a timeline of the history between Kara and Brainy. I've linked both the thread and timeline below.

Twitter thread

Their shared history timeline

Bah ha ha looks like, DraftingDrafter, peeps are intrigued by our comments on here. A month or so ago, something I said ended up on reddit as a discussion. I just happened to see a link to it on Twitter. I wonder how many other things have ended up on reddit and other places from here #TeamSupergirltv I like our crew and admins.

Guess we becoming famous! Love the #teamsupergirltv. We have a great crew here and it’s all thanks to you guys!

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I think that, after the progress Kara has made (finally), it would feel like a huge step backwards for her character to fall back into this relationship, when over half the season has been about getting over Mon-El.

I just don't think Kara/Supergirl should NEED to be in a relationship. And if she is in one, it shouldn't be so crucial to who she is as a person.

Losing people is hard, and I get that. But Kara's recovery period after losing him at the end of season 2 seemed INCREDIBLY disproportional to how long they were together. She seemed to completely lose herself for 7 months, after losing what was pretty much a 2-3 month relationship. And that really bothered me. But she's finally made progress, and I don't want to see all of that be for nothing.

I don't mind Mon-El being around, but I just don't think they should be together, again.

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"I personally believe that if someone only watches a show for a "ship", and refuses to watch because it's not, or is no longer, canon, then good riddance. You were never truly a fan of that show."

Thank you sir. Once when I told a crazed shipper to stop disruptiong SG tweets, they told me to stop b*tching and leave them to do what they are passionate about.

I hardly see anyone that passionate about the show itself. If your sole interest is the imagined pairing of particular TV characters, then what a sad passion it is. Grow up. Wake up.

Every time I look in the comments section in Twitter from anything the staff or CW account tweets, I regret. The infestation of shipping has utterly corrupted and hijacked the enjoyment of the show by normal people.

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The posts on Twitter that I find the saddest are those that tweet that this or that relationship validates them, or makes them whole, or makes them feel like they are valid in some way. That to me is extremely sad commentary because that is putting all that you are into a fictional world and all of those things need to come from within, not from a fictional TV show. The numbers of these tweets are growing, and unfortunately, some of the actors involved in these ships are perpetuating that feeling IMO. When you as the actor "likes" or even says "thank you" or comments to these types of posts you are helping to perpetuate, IMO, a very, very harmful way of thinking to these people. IMO, the actors involved in some of these toxic fandoms have helped continue the vitriol because through their tweets, or likes and even some of the cons they are choosing to go to are perpetuating those feelings. I think it is sad and pretty damn scary.

And let me clear, I am not talking about the wonderful stories of people coming out because they felt inspired by Alex's story.....those are fantastic stories and should high fived for sure....but they should also begin to seek out people in their own lives to help support them in these times, not actors on a fictional show.

Well said.

Wanting people on a television show that we can relate to is understandable but, expecting that a television show in which problems are introduced and solved within 45 minutes to mirror real world experiences is unrealistic. Real life doesn't get all tidied up within 45 minutes or even an entire season of 45 minutes. In real life, people are introduced, people leave, we make life altering decisions, events impact our lives and we have to figure out ourselves, with the support of real life family and friends, the best way to deal with those situations. Someone who looks at a fictional show that is specifically created and thrives on creating conflict for its character's lives as support for one's own life is extremely dangerous, emotionally, for that person.

As for the actors, I think that they're put into a difficult situation with social media. They believe that they're being supportive and I think that they are also afraid of losing their own fans. But, they are unable to realize all of the possible implications of something as simple as a "like" or a friendly shout-out. The entertainment industry really needs to require producers to provide a class for all of its actors and crew on the dangers of fandoms and social media

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The rumors floating today came from reddit. I kinda sorta skimmed over them, and can't see how they are true, being they haven't filmed the finale, yet. I could see where rumors could occur for people on set as an episode is filming. But, being even the cast has said they don't know fully what is coming down the pipes until a week or two before hand, I'm just not thinking anything supposedly "leaking" right now would be true. Just my take on it.
Do we know what eoisode the Krypton scenes are on?

Good question. I've seen pictures on Twitter of set props coming from fans watching this week's on location filming. They're speculating it's Krypton. Eric/Kelsey...do y'all know episode #?

episode 20 has some “Argo” city scenes yes. But before we go on, in light of the tumblr spoilers that were leaked earlier this week, we have it on good authority that much of what was said is wrong. It was a plausible outcome presented as fact. So we urge much caution about reading into any of that mess

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I have to say that I enjoyed this last episode because it seems to have put a nice bookend on the Mon-el/Kara relationship. It seems that both learned from it and are more than willing to move on.

I'm ready to move on....from all of the relationships of season 2.

If by chance Mon-el and Kara end up together in say.....Season 7? cool.....it will be a relationship built on trust, respect and friendship.

As far as Alex, I wish for her someone who respects her opinion, allows her to express her love in whatever way she wants....ie romantic dinners, stupid little cards, etc....whatever makes her happy. I want her partner to want to make her happy as much as Alex wants to do the same. That was not seen in the Maggie relationship. That is what I want for Alex.

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Somehow the topic I brought up about Kara and Brainiac 5 being the closest thing to an 'endgame' made its way to twitter (someone shared a link to this forum topic).

The twitter user, in a thread, goes through Kara and Brainy's history together in case some of you are interested. I'm not a big comic book reader so all of this information was new to me. They've also compiled what looks like a timeline of the history between Kara and Brainy. I've linked both the thread and timeline below.

Twitter thread

Their shared history timeline

Bah ha ha looks like, DraftingDrafter, peeps are intrigued by our comments on here. A month or so ago, something I said ended up on reddit as a discussion. I just happened to see a link to it on Twitter. I wonder how many other things have ended up on reddit and other places from here #TeamSupergirltv

I like our crew and admins.

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But Kara's recovery period after losing him at the end of season 2 seemed INCREDIBLY disproportional to how long they were together.

So true, Kdogg. "Disproportional" is the perfect word for what made the story explanation troubling. Same goes the Maggie story, as well. I mean, days away from wedding and NOW you mention kids.

Good thing the VAST majority of the season has been spectacular. Please don't go backwards on Kara's story, writers *crosses fingers* Having her and Mon-El together season 5?...that would seem MUCH more legit. Give the relationship angle a break....loooonnnggg break.

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I don't know where I was in the past decade or so when "shipping" went from "wouldn't be cool if" to "f**k this show if my ship isn't canon, doesn't stay canon, and isn't endgame, and anyone else who thinks otherwise is garbage".

I personally believe that if someone only watches a show for a "ship", and refuses to watch because it's not, or is no longer, canon, then good riddance. You were never truly a fan of that show.

Do I "ship"? Sure. I ship relationships that I know will never happen. I acknowledge that, I bear no hatred to anyone who disagrees, or to the writers for not putting together the characters I like.

I think the last "hardcore" ships that I had were Lorelei/Luke and Rory/Dean in Gilmore Girls. I can remember being disappointed when Rory and Dean didn't pan out but, it didn't keep me from watching or from enjoying it as I watched. I see absolutely nothing wrong with people shipping but, in the case of SG, the constant whining and nagging by some shippers on social media is so extensive that it dampens the enjoyment of the show for me. The writers and network feeding into it doesn't help either. So, if all of the ships did crash and burn at the end of the season, I would be perfectly content and that's the only spoiler I would want. My only question would be, why wait til the end?

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Can someone please give me a TLDR about what the rumours are?

I got you, Fedguy. I didn't bother to read through the whole list... Just copy/pasted. I would find it hard to believe anyone, even crew, would leak the entire rest of the season.

Warning warning warning.... If anyone doesn't want to know the rumors, scroll past this post:

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Purity and pestilence die.. during battle with team SG in 17.

-Reign kills Patricia.

-Legion talks about leaving in 17 but leave in 18

-Imra, brainy, and mon-el leave in 18. there is a group goodbye scene and mon-el gets inside the ship. but brainy asks him to stay to help supergirl and imra asks him to stay to ‘figure out his feelings’

The cult leader comes back and tries to create a new world killer but ends up making Reign stronger..

-Kara and Lena are on opposite sides on how to deal with the World Killers. James takes Lena’s side. Lena has Kryptonite.

-Black kryptonite is the key to separate reign and sam.

-Kara and Mon-el go to Argo City (which has apparently survived) in search of Black Kryptonite.

Alura is alive.. Kara’s best friend from her childhood is also there and Alura has sort of adopted her. No signs of Zor-EL.

Kara and Mon-el talk about their feelings for each other possibly in the same field as 301.

-Alura comes back to earth with Kara… but leaves in the finale.

-the kryptonian priestess that is guiding reign is also in Argo and she is trying to murder Kara in Argo.

-Lena goes increasingly insane. goes full mad scientist by the finale, experimenting on people. James comes out to the world as guardian and could possibly go to jail.

-Sam and Reign are separated. Sam has her powers only temporarily while Reign is at full strength.

-final battle is the kryptonian priestess plus reign against rest of team SG with legion.

-J'onn’s father dies and at the end of the finale, he goes 'exploring’ so leaves the team. Not sure how permanent it is.

Alex is the head of the DEO.

-Sam survives and she takes ruby with her to another town hence leaving the show. -Imra and Mon-el break up at the start of the final episode.

Apparently in the future brainy’s race is dying because of a virus so he needs to stay in the present for a while. He asks Winn to find him a cure in the future.

Mon-el and kara have a talk in the finale and they both decide he should go to the future.

-It looks like Karamel will be heavily implied until the very end only for Mon-El to go back to the future.

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So I am getting several messages today about the spoilers that leaked and I guess people are pointing to this thread about it. Let me explain here so I can be done with it. I am not going to comment on which spoilers are correct and which are made up. Our site is here to support the show and the show does not benefit from this kind of speculating. We think you can either read them, panic and or delight in them and still wonder if they are true, or you can watch the show as it happens and enjoy it as it is intended to be viewed. Yes we have a spoilers section, but we gauge everything we put on there. Nothing is there that the show wouldn't approve of.

In the end, just remember, if it isn't from an official source, there is no way to know if it is true. Just because its plausible, doesn't make it inevitable.

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Spoilers, rumors, etc...are simply something that comes with the territory of any show. There is no way to get away from it other than simply don't get on your computer. People are going to speculate, there is nothing wrong with that, that is part of the fun of following these shows, especially superhero shows.

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NOW, should people use spoiler tags?

sure.....

I just don't think that they have been put up as a choice, so here is the way you do it.

using these [ ] type the word spoiler in the bars, then type what you want to type and then the same thing at the end, only put a / before the word spoiler. That is the code for spoiler tags. When you do that, you will see what you see up in my post. The only way to see what was typed is to toggle over it. Pretty simple.....but spoilers, rumors, speculation is going to happen on any message board, that is just how it is.

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