How does Lena not know

Actually, I believe Lena knew Mike and Mon-El are one in the same. So she saw Kara being with Mon-El, not Supergirl. Remember the scene where Supergirl, upon going up to Rhea's ship to rescue them, Supergirl runs into Mon-El and Lena? Supergirl and Mon-El had to act "cool" in front of Lena, rather than hug and kiss each other?

She doesn't know Mon-el is with Supergirl....

She knows that Kara was dating an Alien, who's name was Mon-el, who went by Mike on earth...I don't think she knew he was an alien until she found out that he was Rhea's son. Which wasn't until Ep. 21 "Resist".....so up until the episode where Mike suddenly shows up with Supergirl and a martian....that Mike wasn't just Kara's boyfriend. Then once she is taken up on the ship, she learns who Mike actually is, and that Kara is dating an alien....but there is no reason why she would have thought any thing else other than that.

Also, I think this is why I think that it is important that they allow Lena to be totally pissed at Kara when she does find out.......I don't think it has crossed her mind that Kara OR Supergirl would lie to her. She totally trusts both that they are who they are, and if they were the same person they would of course tell HER. Kara is her best friend, why in the world would she not tell her......OH YEAH......SHE'S A LUTHOR.... well, there it is, even my best friend doesn't trust me. There HAS TO BE some fall out from when she finds out, whether Kara tells her or she finds out some other way.

The only question I have is why didn't Rhea or Lillian tell her who Supergirl actually is? I kind of understand why Lillian didn't, but there was absolutely no reason why Rhea shouldn't have told her.

Actually, I believe Lena knew Mike and Mon-El are one in the same. So she saw Kara being with Mon-El, not Supergirl. Remember the scene where Supergirl, upon going up to Rhea's ship to rescue them, Supergirl runs into Mon-El and Lena? Supergirl and Mon-El had to act "cool" in front of Lena, rather than hug and kiss each other?

I think she found out IN THAT EPISODE. She didn't know in the restaurant when It was Kara and Mon-el "Ace Reporter"....at least I don't believe she did. As I stated she found out sort of in episode 20, if she even realized it then....but found out for sure in Ep. 21 "Resist" because she had no clue before that that Mon-el was Rhea's son.

Agreed, Kelly. Well actually, she would have found out last scene of the episode before that, I think... Right? The whole scene in the lab when Mon-El confronts mommy dearest with Lena there... Wasn't that a separate epi and then the NEXT week was the almost married epi? Or were they all one?

But yeah... Right then I think is when Lena realized Mike and Mon-El were one. AND so I THOUGHT that's when Lena would put 2 and 2 together for Kara/Supergirl. But instead, all she got to on her thinking was to...oh my KARA is dating an alien. And six month or so later, she STILL hasn't put Kara/Supergirl together.

Agreed, Kelly. Well actually, she would have found out last scene of the episode before that, I think... Right? The whole scene in the lab when Mon-El confronts mommy dearest with Lena there... Wasn't that a separate epi and then the NEXT week was the almost married epi? Or were they all one?

But yeah... Right then I think is when Lena realized Mike and Mon-El were one. AND so I THOUGHT that's when Lena would put 2 and 2 together for Kara/Supergirl. But instead, all she got to on her thinking was to...oh my KARA is dating an alien. And six month or so later, she STILL hasn't put Kara/Supergirl together.

Yes, I said that in one of my posts above. I don't know that she found out that Mon-el was Rhea's son she was knocked out before their mother/son reunion....but I'm sure she had for a split second wondered how Mon-el suddenly came out of no where with Supergirl and a Man from Mars.....

I think Lena has a blindspot when it comes to Kara. It is possibly because she seemed to be the first person to have wholly accepted her despite her Luthor last name; and has consistently come through for her.

So.. she doesn't expect this person she cares so much for to lie to her or hide something from her; especially when she has made it clear she has issues with Aliens.

And.. I think it'd be very hard on her when she find out the truth about Kara--enough to actually break her. I had not thought so before, but the way she reacted to Kara's request about Cat Co and whole interaction in episode 2 makes me suspect that.

Kara will have a very hard time earning her trust once that is broken.

I think Lena has a blindspot when it comes to Kara. It is possibly because she seemed to be the first person to have wholly accepted her despite her Luthor last name; and has consistently come through for her.

So.. she doesn't expect this person she cares so much for to lie to her or hide something from her; especially when she has made it clear she has issues with Aliens.

And.. I think it'd be very hard on her when she find out the truth about Kara--enough to actually break her. I had not thought so before, but the way she reacted to Kara's request about Cat Co and whole interaction in episode 2 makes me suspect that.

Kara will have a very hard time earning her trust once that is broken.

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Great points, SSAV!

I think what might anger, or rather embarrass Lena about not knowing is that fact that she prides herself in being able to know when people are lying. THEN, couple that with the fact that everyone else in Kara's life that is important to her knows her true identity...that fact, I think, will make Lena feel untrusted. THEN...triple all that with the fact that her MOTHER knows?

An argument I think Kara could use that might lessen Lena's anger/embarrassment/hurt would be something along the lines of, "Lena, you were the ONLY one in my life that I could just be Kara with." I think something like that would actually sink in with Lena, and make sense to her.

Great points, SSAV!

I think what might anger, or rather embarrass Lena about not knowing is that fact that she prides herself in being able to know when people are lying. THEN, couple that with the fact that everyone else in Kara's life that is important to her knows her true identity...that fact, I think, will make Lena feel untrusted. THEN...triple all that with the fact that her MOTHER knows?

An argument I think Kara could use that might lessen Lena's anger/embarrassment/hurt would be something along the lines of, "Lena, you were the ONLY one in my life that I could just be Kara with." I think something like that would actually sink in with Lena, and make sense to her.

I get where you are coming from with that....but I still think that is a weak argument. The person she can just be Kara with is Alex....why? because she has just been Kara with her for 1/2 her life.

Great points, SSAV!

I think what might anger, or rather embarrass Lena about not knowing is that fact that she prides herself in being able to know when people are lying. THEN, couple that with the fact that everyone else in Kara's life that is important to her knows her true identity...that fact, I think, will make Lena feel untrusted. THEN...triple all that with the fact that her MOTHER knows?

An argument I think Kara could use that might lessen Lena's anger/embarrassment/hurt would be something along the lines of, "Lena, you were the ONLY one in my life that I could just be Kara with." I think something like that would actually sink in with Lena, and make sense to her.

I get where you are coming from with that....but I still think that is a weak argument. The person she can just be Kara with is Alex....why? because she has just been Kara with her for 1/2 her life.

Kara can also truthfully say she's only ever told two people Winn and Lucy Lane. Her family and the DEO already knew she was an alien. She didn't tell James who she is Superman did. It could be argued that Lucy was an emergency. Winn is another story. Maybe she could say she needed a tech expert? Everyone else figured it out on their own or spied on her.

I think how Lena finds out is going to be the biggest factor in how she reacts. Is Kara even going to get a chance to explain?

Great points, SSAV!

I think what might anger, or rather embarrass Lena about not knowing is that fact that she prides herself in being able to know when people are lying. THEN, couple that with the fact that everyone else in Kara's life that is important to her knows her true identity...that fact, I think, will make Lena feel untrusted. THEN...triple all that with the fact that her MOTHER knows?

An argument I think Kara could use that might lessen Lena's anger/embarrassment/hurt would be something along the lines of, "Lena, you were the ONLY one in my life that I could just be Kara with." I think something like that would actually sink in with Lena, and make sense to her.

I get where you are coming from with that....but I still think that is a weak argument. The person she can just be Kara with is Alex....why? because she has just been Kara with her for 1/2 her life.

Kara can also truthfully say she's only ever told two people Winn and Lucy Lane. Her family and the DEO already knew she was an alien. She didn't tell James who she is Superman did. It could be argued that Lucy was an emergency. Winn is another story. Maybe she could say she needed a tech expert? Everyone else figured it out on their own or spied on her.

I think how Lena finds out is going to be the biggest factor in how she reacts. Is Kara even going to get a chance to explain?

exactly, I think it would be very easy to spin Kara telling Lena into a compliment to Lena juxtaposed to it being a slight that she kept it from Lena. We are all expecting Lena to go evil at some point, I'd like ti to be about something real.

If she starts trying to spin it, it will make it worse....because the spin turns out to really just be excuses. I would like to know at some point the real reason WHY she hasn't told Lena. Is it because she is a Luthor? Because she hasn't told but 2 people? Lena thinks they are BFF's and so does Kara, isn't that what Winn was to her? She didn't tell him because she needed a tech guy, she told him because he was her best friend and she wanted to share it with him. So? Why not share it with Lena? There really needs to be some narrative as to why she hasn't told her.....

If she starts trying to spin it, it will make it worse....because the spin turns out to really just be excuses. I would like to know at some point the real reason WHY she hasn't told Lena. Is it because she is a Luthor? Because she hasn't told but 2 people? Lena thinks they are BFF's and so does Kara, isn't that what Winn was to her? She didn't tell him because she needed a tech guy, she told him because he was her best friend and she wanted to share it with him. So? Why not share it with Lena? There really needs to be some narrative as to why she hasn't told her.....

simple, you throw Alex under the bus. 'My sister wouldnt let me tell anyone', and explain recent events (her attacks from Psi) have made her want to embrace what she has more than ever.

If she starts trying to spin it, it will make it worse....because the spin turns out to really just be excuses. I would like to know at some point the real reason WHY she hasn't told Lena. Is it because she is a Luthor? Because she hasn't told but 2 people? Lena thinks they are BFF's and so does Kara, isn't that what Winn was to her? She didn't tell him because she needed a tech guy, she told him because he was her best friend and she wanted to share it with him. So? Why not share it with Lena? There really needs to be some narrative as to why she hasn't told her.....

simple, you throw Alex under the bus. 'My sister wouldnt let me tell anyone', and explain recent events (her attacks from Psi) have made her want to embrace what she has more than ever.

I don't like when people do that, so I hope that is not the direction the writers go.....she needs to be 100% on the level, not throwing people under the bus, trying to make excuses, etc....she puts it out there as it is, whatever that may be as long as its the truth.

Here's the thing, apparently they became best buds last season, even though nothing really ever showed that, but apparently they did. And, we have not heard Kara even once talk with anyone about wanting to tell Lena....if she had done that, and Alex said no way, then sure put it on Alex, but we haven't seen even a tid bit of a scene showing this.

If she starts trying to spin it, it will make it worse....because the spin turns out to really just be excuses. I would like to know at some point the real reason WHY she hasn't told Lena. Is it because she is a Luthor? Because she hasn't told but 2 people? Lena thinks they are BFF's and so does Kara, isn't that what Winn was to her? She didn't tell him because she needed a tech guy, she told him because he was her best friend and she wanted to share it with him. So? Why not share it with Lena? There really needs to be some narrative as to why she hasn't told her.....

simple, you throw Alex under the bus. 'My sister wouldnt let me tell anyone', and explain recent events (her attacks from Psi) have made her want to embrace what she has more than ever.

I don't like when people do that, so I hope that is not the direction the writers go.....she needs to be 100% on the level, not throwing people under the bus, trying to make excuses, etc....she puts it out there as it is, whatever that may be as long as its the truth.

Here's the thing, apparently they became best buds last season, even though nothing really ever showed that, but apparently they did. And, we have not heard Kara even once talk with anyone about wanting to tell Lena....if she had done that, and Alex said no way, then sure put it on Alex, but we haven't seen even a tid bit of a scene showing this.

In episode 1x2 Alex arrives at Kara's appartment and is miffed when she learns Kara has told Winn. Episode 1x3 while eating sticky buns at the diner Alex says 'seriously the less people who know the better'

So it would not be a lie to say Alex wouldnt let me.

If she starts trying to spin it, it will make it worse....because the spin turns out to really just be excuses. I would like to know at some point the real reason WHY she hasn't told Lena. Is it because she is a Luthor? Because she hasn't told but 2 people? Lena thinks they are BFF's and so does Kara, isn't that what Winn was to her? She didn't tell him because she needed a tech guy, she told him because he was her best friend and she wanted to share it with him. So? Why not share it with Lena? There really needs to be some narrative as to why she hasn't told her.....

simple, you throw Alex under the bus. 'My sister wouldnt let me tell anyone', and explain recent events (her attacks from Psi) have made her want to embrace what she has more than ever.

I don't like when people do that, so I hope that is not the direction the writers go.....she needs to be 100% on the level, not throwing people under the bus, trying to make excuses, etc....she puts it out there as it is, whatever that may be as long as its the truth.

Here's the thing, apparently they became best buds last season, even though nothing really ever showed that, but apparently they did. And, we have not heard Kara even once talk with anyone about wanting to tell Lena....if she had done that, and Alex said no way, then sure put it on Alex, but we haven't seen even a tid bit of a scene showing this.

In episode 1x2 Alex arrives at Kara's appartment and is miffed when she learns Kara has told Winn. Episode 1x3 while eating sticky buns at the diner Alex says 'seriously the less people who know the better'

So it would not be a lie to say Alex wouldnt let me.

And we have seen absolutely nothing in this line of thinking since those episodes. It would be a lie, because that was back when Kara was still unsure of herself as Supergirl, Alex was still unsure of Kara as Supergirl, neither of them are the same person anymore, and for the most part Season 1 has been wiped out.....so, I believe it would be a lie at this point, unless we see something of Kara thinking about telling Lena and Alex saying, no way.

If she starts trying to spin it, it will make it worse....because the spin turns out to really just be excuses. I would like to know at some point the real reason WHY she hasn't told Lena. Is it because she is a Luthor? Because she hasn't told but 2 people? Lena thinks they are BFF's and so does Kara, isn't that what Winn was to her? She didn't tell him because she needed a tech guy, she told him because he was her best friend and she wanted to share it with him. So? Why not share it with Lena? There really needs to be some narrative as to why she hasn't told her.....

simple, you throw Alex under the bus. 'My sister wouldnt let me tell anyone', and explain recent events (her attacks from Psi) have made her want to embrace what she has more than ever.

I don't like when people do that, so I hope that is not the direction the writers go.....she needs to be 100% on the level, not throwing people under the bus, trying to make excuses, etc....she puts it out there as it is, whatever that may be as long as its the truth.

Here's the thing, apparently they became best buds last season, even though nothing really ever showed that, but apparently they did. And, we have not heard Kara even once talk with anyone about wanting to tell Lena....if she had done that, and Alex said no way, then sure put it on Alex, but we haven't seen even a tid bit of a scene showing this.

In episode 1x2 Alex arrives at Kara's appartment and is miffed when she learns Kara has told Winn. Episode 1x3 while eating sticky buns at the diner Alex says 'seriously the less people who know the better'

So it would not be a lie to say Alex wouldnt let me.

And we have seen absolutely nothing in this line of thinking since those episodes. It would be a lie, because that was back when Kara was still unsure of herself as Supergirl, Alex was still unsure of Kara as Supergirl, neither of them are the same person anymore, and for the most part Season 1 has been wiped out.....so, I believe it would be a lie at this point, unless we see something of Kara thinking about telling Lena and Alex saying, no way.

so if Kara showed up at the DEO and casually let Alex know she told Lena; you think Alex would be fine with it, or upset? I dont think its a stretch to assume that Kara has been told many times by her family not to tell anyone.

If you are told to keep something a secret, how often do you need to have that reinforced upon you?

I get where you are coming from with that....but I still think that is a weak argument. The person she can just be Kara with is Alex....why? because she has just been Kara with her for 1/2 her life.

Ohhhhhh yeah. Truth. Well then crap. lol

I really still hope she finds out WITH Kara there to see Lena's reaction. And for dramatics sake, I hope it's while Kara having to show her powers AS Kara. We've seen jist about every other way of revealing the truth. Supergirl in action as Kara... we haven't seen.

If she starts trying to spin it, it will make it worse....because the spin turns out to really just be excuses. I would like to know at some point the real reason WHY she hasn't told Lena. Is it because she is a Luthor? Because she hasn't told but 2 people? Lena thinks they are BFF's and so does Kara, isn't that what Winn was to her? She didn't tell him because she needed a tech guy, she told him because he was her best friend and she wanted to share it with him. So? Why not share it with Lena? There really needs to be some narrative as to why she hasn't told her.....


simple, you throw Alex under the bus. 'My sister wouldnt let me tell anyone', and explain recent events (her attacks from Psi) have made her want to embrace what she has more than ever.


I don't like when people do that, so I hope that is not the direction the writers go.....she needs to be 100% on the level, not throwing people under the bus, trying to make excuses, etc....she puts it out there as it is, whatever that may be as long as its the truth.

Here's the thing, apparently they became best buds last season, even though nothing really ever showed that, but apparently they did. And, we have not heard Kara even once talk with anyone about wanting to tell Lena....if she had done that, and Alex said no way, then sure put it on Alex, but we haven't seen even a tid bit of a scene showing this.


In episode 1x2 Alex arrives at Kara's appartment and is miffed when she learns Kara has told Winn. Episode 1x3 while eating sticky buns at the diner Alex says 'seriously the less people who know the better'

So it would not be a lie to say Alex wouldnt let me.


And we have seen absolutely nothing in this line of thinking since those episodes. It would be a lie, because that was back when Kara was still unsure of herself as Supergirl, Alex was still unsure of Kara as Supergirl, neither of them are the same person anymore, and for the most part Season 1 has been wiped out.....so, I believe it would be a lie at this point, unless we see something of Kara thinking about telling Lena and Alex saying, no way.



so if Kara showed up at the DEO and casually let Alex know she told Lena; you think Alex would be fine with it, or upset? I dont think its a stretch to assume that Kara has been told many times by her family not to tell anyone.

If you are told to keep something a secret, how often do you need to have that reinforced upon you?

See. I don't think she should do this because I don't think it is true. Alex may always be protective of her but even so, she has a lot more faith in Kara than she had in S1E2. And she would respect Kara's ability to take the lead on this as she has done almost all of S2 and S3. Kara herself doesn't need Alex's approval any more; hasn't since end of Season 1. They are equals, not people in an unequal relationship where one has to defer to the other's wisdom.

And.. .Kara would never throw Alex under the bus or lie about why she told Winn when in fact it was because he was her best friend. Last episode, she thought for a moment that Lena knew and was getting really uncomfortable about it. But, what she would have said I cannot say. Most likely the truth.

In fact, I am not entirely sure why she has not told Lena yet. But, I think it is mostly because all of last season, Lena was not quite as important to Kara as she seemed to think. I mean, Kara obviously cares for her and is protective of her, but I have never seen the same level of care as she displays for Alex, Winn, J'onn or Mon El or even James.

Winn had been Kara's friend for some time before she told him that she was Kryptonian. Naturally, it'd take her some amount of time to trust Lena the same way even if they hang out and are fond of each other. Even now, Lena is the person she pretends the most with; She kept Alex and J'onn at a distance in episode 2, but was all friendly Kara Danvers with Lena (until she started asking uncomfortable questions about Mon El). And with Winn too, the distance was there--may be because she trusts the three of them to understand when she is not herself and also that she needs more time. I mean, she has the freedom to be selfish with them. She is never that with Lena.

I don't think the issue is that Kara has not told her; because honestly, it is her right to keep something so personal to her until she trusts someone fully; and she has followed a pattern there (Lucy was told only because Alex was in danger).

I think the issue is that Lena thinks more of her relationship with Kara than it is at this stage and when she finds out the truth, the effect would be in proportion to Lena's feelings towards Kara and her baggage about the Luthor name and other significant betrayals rather than Kara's feelings towards Lena and what exactly the truth is.

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