Supergirl S3 E7 "Wakeup:" Discussion and Review

Am I the only one that finds it incredibly annoying that Kara acts like emotions are something that only humans have?

Speaking of unnecessary angst/drama, why couldn't Mon-El just tell people what's going on instead of acting shifty for no reason?

Holy heck! Odette is amazing!

Holy heck! Odette is amazing!

Exactly. I felt so bad that Sams relationship with her adopted mom is so shaky that she's never met Ruby and doesnt even really know her name.

Also Sams mom definitely knows something, and was probably the one who found Sams pod. Im guessing she still has it too.

And knowing whats coming its telling that Sams portrayal has been so well done that as a viewer I want to go and tell her to step away from the line of questioning bc thats going to be whats going to lead her to Reign.

I wonder if Kara's necklace means something more to the narrative.

When kara saw and grabbed it monel sort of yanked it back from her and tucked it back in his shirt. So I can't help but wonder if it's pertinent to something else going on in the storyline.

I wonder if Kara's necklace means something more to the narrative.

When kara saw and grabbed it monel sort of yanked it back from her and tucked it back in his shirt. So I can't help but wonder if it's pertinent to something else going on in the storyline.

I hope so otherwise he should have given it back to her.

I've actually seen this theory floating around a bit on twitter. Seems many people are on the same wave length as you.

Here I thought that I was proposing an original premise. Thanks for bursting that bubble, DraftingDrafter

One of the best lines of the series in this episode. When Mon-El reminded Kara of her almost inhaling the ribs and Kara replied "It was a limited time offer" .

That was quite funny. The irony is that with Kara around, all food should be considered a limited time offer for EVERYONE ELSE.

Am I the only one that finds it incredibly annoying that Kara acts like emotions are something that only humans have?

Speaking of unnecessary angst/drama, why couldn't Mon-El just tell people what's going on instead of acting shifty for no reason?

When you are coming from the future, playing with time travel.....just ask Barry, things can go wrong. For her, that is how she is dealing, it's not that she thinks she "doesn't" have emotions, on the contrary she does, and she sees them as a weakness right now, and she sees them as coming from her wanting and having both human desires and her destiny as Supergirl...she thought she could have both, but she doesn't believe that she can have one without the other, sooooooo one has to go. That would be the emotions. Because every time she allows herself to feel deeply, she gets kicked in the heart.....

I think once she sees herself without a heart....ie: Overgirl, that will change.

Am I the only one that finds it incredibly annoying that Kara acts like emotions are something that only humans have?

Speaking of unnecessary angst/drama, why couldn't Mon-El just tell people what's going on instead of acting shifty for no reason?

You're not the only one. I don't like that feelings (mainly love) are depicted as a human thing when we know they're not. Kara loved her bio family before she ever came to earth. We've seen that J'onn loved his family too. They keep pushing this notion of love being a human want/desire and it's tiring to watch.

As for monel, the way I see it is the sneaking and lying was completely for the drama of it all. He didn't need to give details, he could have just said he's from the future, the others on that ship are his 'friends' and he needs to get back to them. That could've nipped all the unnecessary lying in the bud. In the end kara and the others still found out anyways.

Well, Kara is going to find out soon what a Supergirl is like without heart.....so this won't be going on for much longer.

Am I the only one that finds it incredibly annoying that Kara acts like emotions are something that only humans have?

Speaking of unnecessary angst/drama, why couldn't Mon-El just tell people what's going on instead of acting shifty for no reason?

You're not the only one. I don't like that feelings (mainly love) are depicted as a human thing when we know they're not. Kara loved her bio family before she ever came to earth. We've seen that J'onn loved his family too. They keep pushing this notion of love being a human want/desire and it's tiring to watch.

As for monel, the way I see it is the sneaking and lying was completely for the drama of it all. He didn't need to give details, he could have just said he's from the future, the others on that ship are his 'friends' and he needs to get back to them. That could've nipped all the unnecessary lying in the bud. In the end kara and the others still found out anyways.

Exactly! He's to tired to talk but somehow he has the energy to punch people? Or maybe he could have mentioned it before he left the ship for the DEO? (How did he get back to the ship anyway?)

As far as Kara is concerned, there is no reason for her to be like this. It's like the end of last season when James learned he could be a hero without the suit, he already knew that! Now Kara is going to learn that caring about people doesn't make her weak? Then there's the fact it's condescending as hell to all her human friends. I am amazed that we haven't seen an angry drunk Alex telling her off "you're a Kryptonian not a Vulcan."
Also what's the point of making Rein forget all of her emotional attachments, if not to act as a foil to Kara's empathetic hero?

Exciting premise, the only bad thing is my excitement for anything is eclipsed by next week's event.

Well, I'm crying

I know Mon-El had 7 years and near certainty of never seeing Kara again to move on, but damn if my heart didn't break for her. She's still grieving and that was brutal.

Im upset Sam lost all her agency by having the brainwashing forced on her to become evil. I hope that this doesnt mean the death of Sam. I hope that the personalities can be separated somehow. Or that Sam doesnt get punished for the things that Reign did.

I must say Reign’s transformation as an instant override was a bit disappointing

Well it clarifies that Sam and Reign are two different people. Basically like Winter Soldier and Bucky, with the conditioning being like its own personality. So Im guessing that Ruby will be the one to break through the conditioning, given how the brainwashing program told her she would forget Ruby.

Much better season than 2, and we're still just 7 episodes in. Much more cohesive, as well.

I really like Mon-El. Perhaps having him and Kara moved on from their relationship will make for more fun scenes between the two of them. Each both have amazing comedic timing. And as an added BONUS... we don't have to hear/read shipdoms bickering.

P. S... I think he was being honest about why he kept the necklace. I think he realized and cherished the fact that Kara helped to lead him to the path of who he was meant to be--a hero.

I must say Reign’s transformation as an instant override was a bit disappointing

I gotta disagree. Think of the longer tragic story of Sam. She thought something wonderful was happening to her. She has this hopeful "see you soon" goodbye with her daughter, thinking something great was about to happen, only to be (seemingly) erased. Think of how horrified each individual person will be, especially Ruby, if/when they find out who Ruby is.

Plus, they've literally been building this for 5 episodes (she wasn't in "Far from the Tree" or "Midvale". That's plenty. I'm glad the change is done so we can get down to the action in episode 9.

Yeah she probably thought she was going to get to be like Supergirl and get to be a hero. I mean the thing about having the powers, finding out you're an alien, to be fair theres no way she could have realized that was going to happen. I think Reign being presented as an 'over ride' or a separate personality opens the door to maybe Sam coming back, maybe throughout the season where she tries to fight it.

At this point I really hope they can maybe find a way to separate the personalities somehow,because otherwise it seems that Sam might only break through at the end where she listens to an appeal by Ruby.

This is one of the Weaker episodes of season three so far. Too many things go unexplained. What was the device Mon El stole from the DEO lockup? Better yet, how did he know it was there? How did Mon El return to the ship it was buried underground? Howcdid Kara herself get there, did she tunnel? The black of fight scenes in this season is getting really annoying. I get the feeling that the shows production budget has been cut, along with other narrow verse shows as well. Maybe that's why the writing has gotten better, with less money for fights and stunts you need to write better plots and dialogue.

Not the strongest episode of the season, but still very good. The season as a whole continues to impress me. I view this episode as a set-up for the remainder of the season. It succeeded in bringing Mon-El back, which I was happy to see. It will be interesting to see how the relationship among Kara, Mon-El, and Saturn Girl develops during the remainder of the season. As long as it doesn't become a "triangle" I'll be good with it. Preferably they all will just be friends and allies. I also liked the introduction of Reign. Again, it will be interesting to see how this develops. I'm thinking it will be by degrees, with "full Reign" happening sometime in mid-winter. And yes, I'm of the opinion that it will be a Jekyll and Hyde situation for that period, with Hyde winning out in the end.

I wonder if Kara's necklace means something more to the narrative.

When kara saw and grabbed it monel sort of yanked it back from her and tucked it back in his shirt. So I can't help but wonder if it's pertinent to something else going on in the storyline.

Interesting. It was really weird how he reacted to her touching it; as if it is his and not hers.

I am not saying I didn't like him. I did. But, the lying was very wrong. Poor Kara.

I hope they all can move forward and become friends and allies later though...

And oh! Poor Ruby...

And yeah.. Sam.

Myrnn is wonderful.

I wonder if Kara's necklace means something more to the narrative.

When kara saw and grabbed it monel sort of yanked it back from her and tucked it back in his shirt. So I can't help but wonder if it's pertinent to something else going on in the storyline.

Interesting. It was really weird how he reacted to her touching it; as if it is his and not hers.

I am not saying I didn't like him. I did. But, the lying was very wrong. Poor Kara.

Exactly! It has to mean something more, it just has to.

I wasn't fond of the lying either. Hopefully we're done with that from here on moving forward.